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		<title>Comment on Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! by MK</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/sustainability-is-getting-boring-lets-re-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mira, IMO the problem at this stage is still one of branding. I take your point that today &#039;sustainability&#039; is a broader term, but this is mostly because it&#039;s a noun and not an adjective.

The broad approach you describe could also be expressed with the word &#039;green&#039;. For example, not using airplanes could be called a &#039;green lifestyle&#039;.

Ultimately, words are just a vehicle. It&#039;s up to us to fill them with meaning. They are also dynamic - their meanings change over time. 

If in 2010 we think a &#039;green car&#039; should mean a hybrid vehicle, or consider a &#039;green airline&#039; as a hand-gliding outfit, it&#039;s our responsibility to inform and educate the public so that they too make those connections. That requires consensus and hard comms work, but it&#039;s achievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mira, IMO the problem at this stage is still one of branding. I take your point that today &#8217;sustainability&#8217; is a broader term, but this is mostly because it&#8217;s a noun and not an adjective.</p>
<p>The broad approach you describe could also be expressed with the word &#8216;green&#8217;. For example, not using airplanes could be called a &#8216;green lifestyle&#8217;.</p>
<p>Ultimately, words are just a vehicle. It&#8217;s up to us to fill them with meaning. They are also dynamic &#8211; their meanings change over time. </p>
<p>If in 2010 we think a &#8216;green car&#8217; should mean a hybrid vehicle, or consider a &#8216;green airline&#8217; as a hand-gliding outfit, it&#8217;s our responsibility to inform and educate the public so that they too make those connections. That requires consensus and hard comms work, but it&#8217;s achievable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! by Mira</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/sustainability-is-getting-boring-lets-re-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi MK, hi Marko,

Interesting thought, Marko. I just wonder if it will really change anything to simply rebrand...

I actually do like MK&#039;s idea of calling everything &#039;green xxx&#039;. But I&#039;d be afraid that we start taking a too narrow approach by doing that. What would be a &#039;green airline&#039;? Or a &#039;green car&#039;? Don&#039;t we have to re-think the concept of certain products first before we try to make them green?

Sustainability takes a more broad approach. Ideally it means that you look at the balance of different interests and influences of an environmental decision making situation before taking action. The result might be that you decide to not use airplanes anymore or take the bike to go to work instead of your car rather than trying to &#039;green&#039; your airplanes and cars. 

Curious to hear what you think about this ;)

Cheers,

Mira</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi MK, hi Marko,</p>
<p>Interesting thought, Marko. I just wonder if it will really change anything to simply rebrand&#8230;</p>
<p>I actually do like MK&#8217;s idea of calling everything &#8216;green xxx&#8217;. But I&#8217;d be afraid that we start taking a too narrow approach by doing that. What would be a &#8216;green airline&#8217;? Or a &#8216;green car&#8217;? Don&#8217;t we have to re-think the concept of certain products first before we try to make them green?</p>
<p>Sustainability takes a more broad approach. Ideally it means that you look at the balance of different interests and influences of an environmental decision making situation before taking action. The result might be that you decide to not use airplanes anymore or take the bike to go to work instead of your car rather than trying to &#8216;green&#8217; your airplanes and cars. </p>
<p>Curious to hear what you think about this <img src='http://ideaplants.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mira</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! by mk</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/sustainability-is-getting-boring-lets-re-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mira, you&#039;re right: &#039;sustainability&#039; is self-defeating jargon. The word suggests the question: what are we sustaining? And what does &#039;sustain&#039; really mean? It&#039;s easy to confuse by non-native English speakers. And don&#039;t get me started on those six syllables.

But I thought &#039;green [insert noun]&#039; was supposed to be precisely that rebranding that your post calls for. It&#039;s short, clear, visual and a universal concept. It&#039;s a cliche, of course, but still useful and valid today.

Change the packaging too many times and no-one will care about what&#039;s underneath....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mira, you&#8217;re right: &#8217;sustainability&#8217; is self-defeating jargon. The word suggests the question: what are we sustaining? And what does &#8217;sustain&#8217; really mean? It&#8217;s easy to confuse by non-native English speakers. And don&#8217;t get me started on those six syllables.</p>
<p>But I thought &#8216;green [insert noun]&#8216; was supposed to be precisely that rebranding that your post calls for. It&#8217;s short, clear, visual and a universal concept. It&#8217;s a cliche, of course, but still useful and valid today.</p>
<p>Change the packaging too many times and no-one will care about what&#8217;s underneath&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! by Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! &#124; Hyperthinker</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/sustainability-is-getting-boring-lets-re-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! &#124; Hyperthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] role in corporate citizenship. Have a look it&#8217;s an interesting read.  Best wishes, Mira  (This is a cross-post from ideaplants.org)     Share and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] role in corporate citizenship. Have a look it&#8217;s an interesting read.  Best wishes, Mira  (This is a cross-post from ideaplants.org)     Share and [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sustainability is getting boring&#8230; Let&#8217;s re-brand! by Marko</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/sustainability-is-getting-boring-lets-re-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sustainability should be the norm. So you should rebrand &#039;normal&#039; into &#039;pollutive&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sustainability should be the norm. So you should rebrand &#8216;normal&#8217; into &#8216;pollutive&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are you a book-swapper? by Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/are-you-a-book-swapper/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to post another related link and network: http://www.bookcrossing.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to post another related link and network: <a href="http://www.bookcrossing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookcrossing.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Are you a book-swapper? by Mira</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/are-you-a-book-swapper/comment-page-1/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) Yes really nice concept...interesting post, Sylvia!

I remember that I used to exchange books with travellers when backpacking in Australia. We would always write our names &amp; countries on the last page and where we&#039;ve read the book. Nice to be able to read the journey of a book that goes from hand to hand....

Mira</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://ideaplants.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yes really nice concept&#8230;interesting post, Sylvia!</p>
<p>I remember that I used to exchange books with travellers when backpacking in Australia. We would always write our names &amp; countries on the last page and where we&#8217;ve read the book. Nice to be able to read the journey of a book that goes from hand to hand&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mira</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are you a book-swapper? by Paul Cobbaut</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/are-you-a-book-swapper/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Cobbaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep it does...
http://www.antwerpen.be/eCache/ABE/3/723.Y29udGV4dD04MDU5OTI5.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep it does&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.antwerpen.be/eCache/ABE/3/723.Y29udGV4dD04MDU5OTI5.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.antwerpen.be/eCache/ABE/3/723.Y29udGV4dD04MDU5OTI5.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Are you a book-swapper? by Paul Cobbaut</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/03/are-you-a-book-swapper/comment-page-1/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Cobbaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this. Does it also exist in Antwerp ?

paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this. Does it also exist in Antwerp ?</p>
<p>paul</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is packaging part of the problem or part of the solution? by Marko</title>
		<link>http://ideaplants.org/2010/02/is-packaging-part-of-the-problem-or-part-of-the-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cousin of mine is specialist in packaging and adressed the same problems. And found that packages with environment in mind, can be much cheaper! http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=5695298e-d8b3-4189-8896-6b1597283e4d&amp;lang=nl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cousin of mine is specialist in packaging and adressed the same problems. And found that packages with environment in mind, can be much cheaper! <a href="http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=5695298e-d8b3-4189-8896-6b1597283e4d&amp;lang=nl" rel="nofollow">http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=5695298e-d8b3-4189-8896-6b1597283e4d&amp;lang=nl</a></p>
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